Episode 077: Video Woodworkers Skiatook Adventure 2017 Recap

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What’s Going On In The Shop

Kyle – Working on the 100 vase, starting a job for Whittier College, Finished a bent laminated leg round table.

Sean – Returned from The Video Woodworkers Skiatook Adventure in OK, demonstrated how to metal leaf and apply a chemical patina (below: silver leaf with liver of sulfur patina; Bowl turned by Shawn Graham).  Made another mini 6 board chest.  Posted the Zeta Table video.


Gave a sample panel to Nick Hinson and he framed it.

Brian – Video on the herringbone benches is live, nearly finished with the walnut bed, worked on the jointer dust collection.

Braxton – Recuperating from the OK trip, and finishing up some tables.

Main Topic – Live events and the fun to be had.  Visit the Video Woodworkers website to more information on the creators who attended the OK event.

Guest Question:

Braxton Wirthlin – Thoughts on the VWW Skiatook, OK event experience.  Check out Braxton on his YouTube channel and his podcast,  Woodturners Anonymous Podcast.

Listener Questions, Email, and Comments:

Robby Wright – Gents, In a recent show, you commented about leaving dust collectors
running because you can damage the motors by starting and stopping them too
much. In my experience as a woodworker, industrial electrician and an
electrical contractor, I suggest that you are only partly right. Most dust
collectors that are 2 HP, maybe 3 HP, and smaller have fairly lightweight
impellers on them. They can be started and stopped frequently without an
issue. Dust collectors with heavy impellers, such as the 5 HP units, have a
heavier startup load and shouldn’t be started as frequently. Frequently is
more than more than 15 times an hour.

I have a 2 HP Taiwanese dust collector that I have used for 15 years now. It
is controlled  by a current sensing circuit that turns the dust collector on
and off any time a monitored tool, such as my table saw, bandsaw, etc., is
turned on or off. In the initial stages of a project, it is not unusual to
start and stop both the table saw and dust collector many times in an hour
and it hasn’t damaged anything in the motor in those 15 years.

Remember that the only parts that can be damaged are the starting switch,
capacitor, windings and bearings in a single phase motor. The starting
switch will wear, but that is normal. The capacitor doesn’t normally wear as
it is engaged for only a few seconds unless the starting switch is welded
shut. The bearings aren’t going to be hurt from this type of starting and
stopping, leaving only the heat in the windings to do damage. As long as the
motor doesn’t overheat, you are good to go. For three phase motors, only
heat needs to be worried about.

When starting, the only real load on the motor is the inertia of the
impeller. The load of the air movement doesn’t occur until the impeller
starts to get up to speed. Even with all gates open, the motor is going to
be running at less than full rating if properly designed. I measured my
motor and it only draws about three-fourths of its rated current, even under
maximum load of my dust collection system. The more gates that are closed,
the less load on the system.

By the way, if anyone is interested in a current sensing controller for your
DC, you can find my article on it in Fine Woodworking, Aug, 2000 or the FWW
on Small Shops book by Taunton Press.

Enjoy your show – keep up the good work.

Nick Hinson – I recently broke my mini lathe (and almost died in the process). I want to get a full sized one now. I’m going to have to go used because I don’t have the moolah to get a new full sized one. This means looking up old lathe model numbers and figuring out which one has what I need and if they’re worth the price they’re listed at. The problem is, I’m not sure I know what all features are needed in a full sized lathe since I’m so used to the tiny bench top one I had. What are some must-haves for you guys in a lathe? Anything that isn’t a must but is super useful to have? Also, any of you guys wanna sell a lathe for cheap? 😉 Thanks guys!

Arron Sparrow – Hey guys,
Love your podcast.  This comment is a few weeks old, so please forgive me.  When you were talking about future builds or pieces you would like to build in the future, one of you mentioned a canoe.  I believe you also talked about how much work a cedar strip canoe would be to build.  I am also a dream builder of canoes, and here is one I might start with for the following reasons:
1. It looks good, in that the above the waterline parts are mostly cedar strips.
2. but the below the waterline parts are plywood.
This seems to be a good compromise between good looks and ease of build.
See an example in the following link:


Keep up the great podcast,
Aaron Sparrow
Stian Johannessen – Hey,
Great podcast you guys, keep up the good work. This is the podcast I look forward to the most during my week.
My question for you guys is, should I now get a cheaper band saw and then see if it works with my workflow, or wait 6-12 months and just buy the better quality one? I have been checking our equivalent of craigslist for the last 4 months, but no good deals there, only overpriced low quality stuff. Been wanting learn how to resaw and use homemade veneer and maybe even use it as a small makeshift mill, as a way to start making my own lumber.P.S:
Since i don’t live in the states, i can’t leave a review there, but here it comes:
The Dusty Life is the nr1 podcast out there, everyone should listen to it. Keep making us laugh and learn- Stian Sørhus

iTunes Reviews

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Self Immolation – Fun Listen and Inspiring – 5 stars – Good chemistry and it’s fun to hear the different approaches between the guys.  It’s also interesting to hear about turning, something I’d like to try one day.  It seems I have everything but a lathe in my shop.  My only complaint is the awkward silence and fluidity at times, but I’m also not the one editing it, so I understand that’s a lot of work to clean that up post.  Keep up the good work, guys.
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Author: Spunjin

I am a woodworker, maker, and DIY enthusiast.

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